GG: Jefferson additionally has pointed views on Superman. Did you get pushback?
JR: No, as a result of it’s not about Superman being a foul man. We go to Superman and different heroes by means of the lens of those characters. Though Superman is an immigrant and actually an alien, his passport is stamped due to the way in which he appears and due to the way in which he presents himself.
All of those characters must reconcile how they view different individuals and whether or not they’re being honest. If I made Superman or Batman or Marvel Lady dangerous individuals, I’m positive we’d have had pushback. Nevertheless it was all honest sport if it got here from a perspective that felt actual and grounded.
GG: How did the challenge initially come collectively?
JR: I used to be very nervous once I pitched it. It was a sort of vanity, perhaps, to come back again and say, I wish to take a look at your complete historical past and shift the lens somewhat and have some actual speak about a few of these characters. To their credit score, DC noticed the worth. This was lengthy earlier than the present depending on race and illustration.
If you’re coping with tales about race, otherization, individuals exterior of the prevailing tradition, sadly, it’s going to be related virtually any time it comes out.
GG: Let’s speak about your upcoming Batman comedian and your tease that it could extremely doubtless be a nonwhite Batman.
JR: Let me affirm that it’s undoubtedly a Black particular person beneath the cowl. It was an informal line, meant to be humorous. Comedian e-book followers are the very best followers. They’ll undergo every little thing and test it and recheck it. It was the quip heard around the globe. Positively, unquestionably, the following Batman is a Black Batperson.
GG: I really like that you simply’re saying “particular person” and never “man.”
JR: I’ve to have what enjoyable I can. There’s no motive within the fashionable period to suppose that the one who is representing Batman is a person. However whoever it’s, it’s an attention-grabbing alternative to populate the world round this new Batman. We’ll have some attention-grabbing characters coming in and a variety of illustration. It was actually essential to guarantee that this Gotham Metropolis was effectively represented.